fatswhereitsat Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 "I don't do videos for $50. The minimum is $100. There are girls who do videos that are sold in clips4sale. Mass produced videos are a LOT cheaper. I don't show my face, but I don't mind being topless. $100 videos are roughly around 20 minutes long." She said that to me last January... Ha ha ha what the hell!!? You could go get a blow job or something from your friendly local hooker for that sort of money! Who in their right mind would pay $100 for a video when there is so much decent FREE porn and other BBW clips for sale for way way less. Take Muffinmaid. Prettier face, just as big boobs, bigger belly, no ripping off / mental issues bullshit and based on the price of her most recent video 94% cheaper. As Serfontein said below, maybe she has a kink for ripping men off!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griigor Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 "I don't do videos for $50. The minimum is $100. There are girls who do videos that are sold in clips4sale. Mass produced videos are a LOT cheaper. I don't show my face, but I don't mind being topless. $100 videos are roughly around 20 minutes long." She said that to me last January... Fuck me... She's hot, very hot even, but how entitled can one person be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbu Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 I just deleted all content I had from her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panhype2 Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Well, of course she doesn't have the overwhelming curviness anymore that she used to have. Hence the old pics. Posting new ones would trigger tons of negative comments. She is clever. These posts on ff read like: "I've lost weight. If your fetish is wanting to get me into my bigger shape again, you can try. But it will cost you serious $$$" Of course she can do that. But it sends a certain message, considering her history... However: You can't compare a c4s clip with a custom video. The investment into producing a custom clip isn't just the 20 mins it is running. A while ago an average porn star charged - as a rule of thumb - $50 for a straight custom clip (no extras). Prices might have gone up recently. When i see how much some cam girls are charging - minimum credit $80, $6/min - oh boy! And you don't have a video later. While AmateurArt showed an epically curvy body combined with really exceptional looks and beauty. That sets her apart, totally. People will keep posting her stuff in 20 years from now. That puts her into a league with Kelligrl. And people are still getting aggravated whenever her name drops. The thing with Kelligrl was that she collected $$$ for a publishing project... which went "bankrupt" (= she actually lost most of the money). And she disappeared, without a trace. The part that AmateurArt didn't refund the people for the prepaid but never delivered videos (= she just kept the money) looks less excusable to me than Kelligrl's behavior. Would be curious to learn how many people are actually affected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatswhereitsat Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Was wondering when the first fanboy / white knight would appear! Her behaviour / actions are indefensible. Period. I earn a pretty reasonable salary for someone in their twenties and have plenty of disposable income but there is no way on this earth I would ever pay $100 for a 20 minute headless video that I might not even receive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob7177 Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 No I meant the large amount of cash requested for the private video from AA. The email you deleted. What was the figure for that? Oh I am sorry, my mistake. I think it was in the region from $50 - $100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not_A_Lady_Till_180 Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Was wondering when the first fanboy / white knight would appear! Her behaviour / actions are indefensible. Period. I earn a pretty reasonable salary for someone in their twenties and have plenty of disposable income but there is no way on this earth I would ever pay $100 for a 20 minute headless video that I might not even receive. but... pornstars!! and kelligrl!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cenahater5001 Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Your fault for paying haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfreeze12 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 If anybody still has the other azismiss videos, I'm willing to pay for them to get them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hella hoez Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Just release the vaults! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blabber749 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Put me down for another one of the idiots who got ripped off. I sent her a $200 paypal payment in January 2014, for a rather simple video (a slow striptease with an upward camera angle). From our talksin PMs on here she wholeheartedly agreed and insisted I was actually overpaying... But I was a guy warm for her form with extra cash to blow. I figured I might even be supporting her efforts to gain by paying her well, so I splurged. Originally she conveyed a quick production, but over time the "delays" and "excuses" piled up. She was in the middle of an apartment search... Her internet was disconnected... Then around Valentines Day back in February she disappeared without a word in response until April Fool's Day. She updated me (around the time she finally returned to these forums) that she'd met a BBW who was also a feeder, but who was also extremely jealous and possessive. She actually even admitted she didn't have the money to give back to me (in the months' silence I'd asked if she could just send me the money back if the video was too much to ask). She was "heartbroken/devastated" but said she'd try to make the video I paid her for - "Spring break is next week. Your video will be made next week, and I'm going through everyone's requests so I can get back to them." Her final request in that email was that I not spread this information around - "she searches every damn corner of the net for information about me, so please don't say anything bad about her in forums. Trying to simply ignore her, not cause more drama." Then I saw a post by a user on here named temporary who forwarded a message from her to a post here on the forums - but her explanation of her disappearance then had some discrepancies to what she'd told me in private with the instruction not to tell anyone any specifics. Anyway, she told me she was totally still making my video, so long as it would stay between us. She expressed a desire to honor my video as a unique case where I'd requested and paid for it before she'd even met her girlfriend. Around mid-June I finally heard from her again, she asked me to resend the description for my request and that she'd be recording all the following week. That was the last response I ever got from her. I followed up with several emails asking if she still planned to do it. Then around the end of July I had had enough, and requested a refund of my payment. Requested again late-August. Around the start of October I thought I'd discovered a new Gmail address of hers and forwarded my request to it, but received no response still. It is now December 25, 2014, and I have not received the video I paid her $200 for almost a full year prior, despite countless promises, excuses, and assurances. My request was rather simple, and she wholeheartedly agreed it was doable and no problem for her. I also felt that given the fact it would have been a personally-done endeavor, I would have had no complaints, and even if it wasn't EXACTLY what I'd asked for, I would not have raised any issues. But now I fully feel the sting of having my own generosity and patience taken advantage of, and I am severely peeved. I told her flat-out in my last email on December 19 that if I still haven't received either a refund of my payment or a reply from her showing an effort to do so by January 22, 2015, one year after the payment was sent, I would be contacting a lawyer in an attempt to recover it. She may be physically attractive and a passionate gainer, and she may have been a dream come true to many people who sought this kind of content (myself included), but stealing is fucking ugly and I urge this community to shun her in every way imaginable for her taint and trickery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesee Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 just gonna leave this here... o.0 I think its mostly complete httpsCOLON//megaDOTcoDOTnz/#!cBQ3RJAL!s8Kpda9gQD2DZ1kWvE6lA8f7RPuEqVZ1Ys1hr0LwIYo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfreeze12 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 You see I really wish you had the videos in the screenshot (1) picture, I had access to them at one point but before I could download them they were gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Put me down for another one of the idiots who got ripped off. I sent her a $200 paypal payment in January 2014, for a rather simple video (a slow striptease with an upward camera angle). From our talksin PMs on here she wholeheartedly agreed and insisted I was actually overpaying... But I was a guy warm for her form with extra cash to blow. I figured I might even be supporting her efforts to gain by paying her well, so I splurged. Originally she conveyed a quick production, but over time the "delays" and "excuses" piled up. She was in the middle of an apartment search... Her internet was disconnected... Then around Valentines Day back in February she disappeared without a word in response until April Fool's Day. She updated me (around the time she finally returned to these forums) that she'd met a BBW who was also a feeder, but who was also extremely jealous and possessive. She actually even admitted she didn't have the money to give back to me (in the months' silence I'd asked if she could just send me the money back if the video was too much to ask). She was "heartbroken/devastated" but said she'd try to make the video I paid her for - "Spring break is next week. Your video will be made next week, and I'm going through everyone's requests so I can get back to them." Her final request in that email was that I not spread this information around - "she searches every damn corner of the net for information about me, so please don't say anything bad about her in forums. Trying to simply ignore her, not cause more drama." Then I saw a post by a user on here named temporary who forwarded a message from her to a post here on the forums - but her explanation of her disappearance then had some discrepancies to what she'd told me in private with the instruction not to tell anyone any specifics. Anyway, she told me she was totally still making my video, so long as it would stay between us. She expressed a desire to honor my video as a unique case where I'd requested and paid for it before she'd even met her girlfriend. Around mid-June I finally heard from her again, she asked me to resend the description for my request and that she'd be recording all the following week. That was the last response I ever got from her. I followed up with several emails asking if she still planned to do it. Then around the end of July I had had enough, and requested a refund of my payment. Requested again late-August. Around the start of October I thought I'd discovered a new Gmail address of hers and forwarded my request to it, but received no response still. It is now December 25, 2014, and I have not received the video I paid her $200 for almost a full year prior, despite countless promises, excuses, and assurances. My request was rather simple, and she wholeheartedly agreed it was doable and no problem for her. I also felt that given the fact it would have been a personally-done endeavor, I would have had no complaints, and even if it wasn't EXACTLY what I'd asked for, I would not have raised any issues. But now I fully feel the sting of having my own generosity and patience taken advantage of, and I am severely peeved. I told her flat-out in my last email on December 19 that if I still haven't received either a refund of my payment or a reply from her showing an effort to do so by January 22, 2015, one year after the payment was sent, I would be contacting a lawyer in an attempt to recover it. She may be physically attractive and a passionate gainer, and she may have been a dream come true to many people who sought this kind of content (myself included), but stealing is fucking ugly and I urge this community to shun her in every way imaginable for her taint and trickery. I've said this over and over. Deceiving someone who went out and of their way for you is ugly. Some of the most popular women here are very guilty of this BUT most people don't know this due to them not being dumb enough to do it to so many people here. The problem is on a site like this, most people (i.e. males who weren't victims of these scams) simply don't care as long as it doesn't happen to them. They will vehemently defend said scammers by arguing or deleting any accusations and proof in hopes the scammer will continue. It's pathetic behavior. The question is, how do you effectively combat the dumb cunts who pull these scams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatswhereitsat Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 The question is, how do you effectively combat the dumb cunts who pull these scams? The only way it can be stopped is by the webmasters of the sites she uses banning her profiles. She was banned from FF in the past but has been allowed back on for some reason. I messaged the site owner pointing to this thread but as far as I can tell she is still there. I'm not criticising SuperJ or Hiccupx (FF) here but if I ran either one of these two popular sites I would just ban someone like that for good. More people will get scammed otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FrankToo Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 The question is, how do you effectively combat the dumb cunts who pull these scams? With candy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Qemarar Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Wish there was a place to find ALL her videos. You guys have been great providing links to a large amount, but I know there's still some out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellymon Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 why don't all you guys just sue her? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilan Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 why don't all you guys just sue her? Yeah, it would be a good idea to get it out in the open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 The only way it can be stopped is by the webmasters of the sites she uses banning her profiles. She was banned from FF in the past but has been allowed back on for some reason. I messaged the site owner pointing to this thread but as far as I can tell she is still there. I'm not criticising SuperJ or Hiccupx (FF) here but if I ran either one of these two popular sites I would just ban someone like that for good. More people will get scammed otherwise. I'd enact the website-that-shall-not-be-named rule. There is worse and more well-known than her who get away with it. It just says to all ladies that scamming is okay. All they have to do is pull a Puss-in-Boots on the mods and all is forgiven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiro Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 why don't all you guys just sue her? The legal fees would be more than the money they lost. It is a real hassle to sue someone if you don't have their real name and address. If someone has her proper contact info, it would be simple to go to small claims court, and she would probably give the money back based on the threat of having that happen. This is why I don't buy anything without legit contact info, unless I get the video first and then pay for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cane Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Can someone just post some screenshots of her private vids? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cenahater5001 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Tags say it all. Y'all who payed for her vids got rekd. Maybe next time you will pay for something you know will be good, like clips4sale of pennylane or lunalove Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not_A_Lady_Till_180 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Tags say it all. Y'all who payed for her vids got rekd. Maybe next time you will pay for something you know will be good, like clips4sale of pennylane or lunalove those were odd choices for alternatives lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cenahater5001 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 those were odd choices for alternatives lol Yeah much larger i know, i just dont remember that many models close to her size other than cherries and imogeneize and neither of them use c4s. Penny has some great videos though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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