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I just find it hilarious how she packed on the pounds quick and easy for money through the fetish cartel vids thinking that she'd be able to lose the weight just as easily . Now she's too prideful and won't do anymore cartel vids lol. She's probably close to the inevitable Dr. Miami visit but I'll always remember these 2 years where she clearly let greed(through money and food) get the best of her.

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22 minutes ago, Leeds said:

I just find it hilarious how she packed on the pounds quick and easy for money through the fetish cartel vids thinking that she'd be able to lose the weight just as easily . Now she's too prideful and won't do anymore cartel vids lol. She's probably close to the inevitable Dr. Miami visit but I'll always remember these 2 years where she clearly let greed(through money and food) get the best of her.

Wow! Aren't you the judgmental one who makes assumptions about a bunch of things you almost certainly know little or nothing about:

1)  You don't know if she gained weight on purpose or if she was struggling with weight gain and decided to make the best of a difficult situation by working for FC.

2)  You don't know that it is "pride" that made her stop working for FC.  She has been working towards opening her own site.  Maybe it is about wanting to control her content, or make more money as an "owner" rather than a "worker". Maybe she is simply embarrassed by how big she has gotten. She has expressed concern about health issues. 

3)  You say she is "greedy",  but it is quite likely that she is voluntarily giving up income by no longer working for FC.

How about being a bit less of a schadenfreude douche-bag? If we want to normalize weight gain and BBWs, insulting one of the biggest mainstream porn stars to stick around as a BBW doesn't strike me as helpful.  Clearly she isn't entirely comfortable with her gain, reading comments like yours has to be liking pouring gasoline on a fire.

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2 hours ago, litmus said:

Wow! Aren't you the judgmental one who makes assumptions about a bunch of things you almost certainly know little or nothing about:

1)  You don't know if she gained weight on purpose or if she was struggling with weight gain and decided to make the best of a difficult situation by working for FC.

2)  You don't know that it is "pride" that made her stop working for FC.  She has been working towards opening her own site.  Maybe it is about wanting to control her content, or make more money as an "owner" rather than a "worker". Maybe she is simply embarrassed by how big she has gotten. She has expressed concern about health issues. 

3)  You say she is "greedy",  but it is quite likely that she is voluntarily giving up income by no longer working for FC.

How about being a bit less of a schadenfreude douche-bag? If we want to normalize weight gain and BBWs, insulting one of the biggest mainstream porn stars to stick around as a BBW doesn't strike me as helpful.  Clearly she isn't entirely comfortable with her gain, reading comments like yours has to be liking pouring gasoline on a fire.

I'm so confused here. Probably should have added in a good way at the end of the last sentence of my original post lol. I don't know if you are mad at me for saying Katie got fat for money or Katie doesn't like being fat. Nonetheless, you didn't really argue my points, you literally just made excuses for her.  You've gotten 1 year and change worth of vids of near size 20 Katie Cummings. Please stop being naive as to think she isn't going to lose most of this weight soon thru surgery or natural. For you to suggest that I have any blame for Katie losing weight or not doing fetish videos is very weird.

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24 minutes ago, Leeds said:

I'm so confused here. Probably should have added in a good way at the end of the last sentence of my original post lol. I don't know if you are mad at me for saying Katie got fat for money or Katie doesn't like being fat. Nonetheless, you didn't really argue my points, you literally just made excuses for her.  You've gotten 1 year and change worth of vids of near size 20 Katie Cummings. Please stop being naive as to think she isn't going to lose most of this weight soon thru surgery or natural. For you to suggest that I have any blame for Katie losing weight or not doing fetish videos is very weird.

My point is that you are being presumptuous.  You don't know, neither do I.  I have dated a very beautiful Latina woman in recovery from an eating disorder who has struggled with her weight (every member of her large immediate family, except her weighs over 250)  and with some really challenging body image issues.  It isn't "hilarious" in the least.  Just stop assuming you know who she is, what her motivations are, or what will happen in the future.  You are being an insensitive prick.

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1 hour ago, Yungkata said:

Ya again it’s the ppl who comment dumb ass mean shit that make these models hate their bodies. Please stop. Just admire the beauty. 

We are just pointing out the truth.  And the truth of the matter is that Katie Cummings got fat in the public eye.  We are just pointing out the extra rolls and how huge she is on the pictures.

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On 6/1/2018 at 8:02 PM, Xfinity92 said:

We are just pointing out the truth.  And the truth of the matter is that Katie Cummings got fat in the public eye.  We are just pointing out the extra rolls and how huge she is on the pictures.

What bothers me is that many members of this community seem to get off on "fat shaming" the very same women you get off fapping to.  It strikes me as extremely misogynistic. 

Fun teasing with women who enjoy that is one thing.  Repeating all the mean shit that our culture believes about women who are not thin or who gain weight is something else.  Someone who gains weight is not necessarily lazy, out of control, or eating huge quantities of shitty food. A little more "body positivity" and a lot less fat shaming would really help this culture, in general, and this site/community, in particular.

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On 6/3/2018 at 2:58 PM, litmus said:

What bothers me is that many members of this community seem to get off on "fat shaming" the very same women you get off fapping to.  It strikes me as extremely misogynistic. 

Fun teasing with women who enjoy that is one thing.  Repeating all the mean shit that our culture believes about women who are not thin or who gain weight is something else.  Someone who gains weight is not necessarily lazy, out of control, or eating huge quantities of shitty food. A little more "body positivity" and a lot less fat shaming would really help this culture, in general, and this site/community, in particular.

Some people like that aspect of weight gain.  There's something about a woman who can't stop herself from gaining weight that's exciting.  It doesn't mean I'm going to mock her about it or actually mention it to the woman, but finding it enjoyable isn't wrong.  I tease my girlfriend about it because she has repeatedly told me she likes it when I tease her about gaining weight, so there's nothing wrong with the "fat shaming" aspect as long as: A.) Both people are into it  -or-  B.) It's not brought up to the person in question.

This forum loves to turn on itself whenever someone starts to get unconventional.  It's true that Katie has gotten bigger, it may be due to the fetish cartel videos, it may be due with becoming lazy with all the camming, or maybe her metabolism has just been slowing down.  If someone wants to get off on the idea that she's helplessly turned into some lazy pig who can't stop gaining weight, they should be able to voice their thoughts on the forum as long as they're not actually telling Katie (or any other model) about it.

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36 minutes ago, Nevoki said:

Some people like that aspect of weight gain.  There's something about a woman who can't stop herself from gaining weight that's exciting.  It doesn't mean I'm going to mock her about it or actually mention it to the woman, but finding it enjoyable isn't wrong.  I tease my girlfriend about it because she has repeatedly told me she likes it when I tease her about gaining weight, so there's nothing wrong with the "fat shaming" aspect as long as: A.) Both people are into it  -or-  B.) It's not brought up to the person in question.

This forum loves to turn on itself whenever someone starts to get unconventional.  It's true that Katie has gotten bigger, it may be due to the fetish cartel videos, it may be due with becoming lazy with all the camming, or maybe her metabolism has just been slowing down.  If someone wants to get off on the idea that she's helplessly turned into some lazy pig who can't stop gaining weight, they should be able to voice their thoughts on the forum as long as they're not actually telling Katie (or any other model) about it.

I appreciate the tone of your reply.  You seem to be looking for thoughtful discussion, not just hurling rhetorical stones.  I think this stuff is complicated.  In general, I think people should be allowed to have their kinks as long as they are not harming others and as long as there is consent from all involved.

I do think that those who are turned on by humiliating or degrading others should engage in a little self-reflection.  Again, there is a real difference between "teasing" that is consensual and fun vs. shaming that humiliates or degraded someone. 

We live in a culture that is particularly shaming towards larger women and women who gain weight.  There are a lot of false and negative stereotypes that are part of that "fat shaming".  I think this community should work towards breaking down those stereotypes rather than reinforcing them.   Individual couples can tease all they want, but as a community we should not condone humiliation.  This is a public space and what gets said here gets back to the models.  Basic human decency and consideration for their feelings seems warranted.

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13 hours ago, litmus said:

  This is a public space and what gets said here gets back to the models.  Basic human decency and consideration for their feelings seems warranted.

I would agree that this is the core of what the community should strive for.  I guess it is true that this is a public space, now that you mention it.

I've actually seen posts on other site boards that talk about how a woman might not be "big enough" or posts like "if she gained 50 more lbs, she would be perfect"  and I think that goes along with "fat shaming" even though it's kinda the reversal.  I never really liked those posts, because they come from the perspective of "this woman isn't good enough yet" and (to me) are just as bad as saying a woman needs to lose weight to look pretty.  Everyone can have their preference, but we're still talking about models who are real people.

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