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Is Feederism a Type of Sexual Sadism?


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Many of us get pleasure seeing a woman get out of shape; being humiliated; losing their conventional sex appeal; becoming unfit; being shamed and so on.

It seems abundantly clear that this is quite sadistic amongst us with these kinks. 

Its odd because I've been an fa with mild feeder desires since I remember and yet I never drew any parallels  with s and m.

Would you folks class it as a form of sadism for the feeder? (and potentially masochistic by nature for the feeder)

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Certainly there are different categories of feeders/FA. I've never been into the shaming, teasing thing. Then again, my wife has never been an intentional gainer and goes through cycles of battling with self-image.

If I was with someone who has always been heavy, intentionally gains and revels in their fatness – I would most likely be whistling a different tune.

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11 hours ago, BindsThatTie said:

Certainly there are different categories of feeders/FA. I've never been into the shaming, teasing thing. Then again, my wife has never been an intentional gainer and goes through cycles of battling with self-image.

If I was with someone who has always been heavy, intentionally gains and revels in their fatness – I would most likely be whistling a different tune.

Exactly, there's not only one kind of feederism. For example, i don't like the "the bigger the better" thing, don't like the idea of immobily and usually don't feel attracted to woman with +350 pounds.

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I've often thought about this subject as well. I've always been fascinated by all the different variations and aspects of feedism. I've spoken to a lot of women in this fetish and most of them have struggled with body image issues and low self esteem and have a history of eating disorders, so I feel bad encouraging them to gain (and giving them the wrong impression that it will somehow magically solve all their problems).

I also feel bad when a gainer starts out with a gorgeous shape and then intentionally "destroys" their perfect figure via gaining (I know, its subjective). For some reason this always grieves me. Not sure if this means I now have a preference for slightly chubby girls or what lol

I personally wouldn't ever be able to encourage someone I love to gain a significant amount of weight because I care too much about their health and longevity to put my own desires ahead of their well-being.

 

 

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14 minutes ago, riptoryx said:

avril lavigne smile GIF

Sometimes, there's nothing better than seeing a vain, slim hottie have a catastrophic weight gain and lose her perfect figure.

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3 hours ago, John Smith said:

Who the hell in this website does considers that a woman who increases her body weight is destroying her appeal?

I know it sounds horrible but I do sometimes feel this way. But usually only when the girl starts off with a shape I consider to be a perfect 10. And I'm also picky about how the fat distributes itself:-( It's a damn good thing I'm not a feeder and don't date women who are into this fetish. I'd certainly never date myself if the situation was reversed lol.

That being said, I like to encourage and feel compelled to help women gain weight simply because I enjoy helping people achieve their goals, no matter what they are.

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I wonder if most feedees consider their larger body more appealing or they do it because they consider it less appealing. Is it the equivalent of bodybuilding or is it a form of intentional "self harm"?

To answer the OP's question with another question, if feeding is a type of sadomasochism is it more inmoral than other types of sadomasochism?

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15 minutes ago, Vladimir Putin said:

I wonder if most feedees consider their larger body more appealing or they do it because they consider it less appealing. Is it the equivalent of bodybuilding or is it a form of intentional "self harm"?

To answer the OP's question with another question, if feeding is a type of sadomasochism is it more inmoral than other types of sadomasochism?

Most of the women I've spoken to got turned onto the fetish by seeing other gainers on the Internet (mainly Tumblr and Youtube). They often just admire other girls for years, then eventually get curious and try it out themselves. They often feel conflicted at first, but they receive so much positive feedback from people that they eventually actually end up perceiving their new, fatter body as beautiful. There can still be a lot of internal conflict due to having no support system in their daily life, though. 

I don't know of any other fetish that has so many potential negative physical ramifications (early mortality and irreversible health issues being the worst case scenario). But in most cases, the feeder doesn't usually intend to kill the feedee or cause her to get ill, so I don't even think it qualifies as sadism unless the couple are death feedists. In such cases, the feedee actually wants to die & get sick from obesity related causes, and has an agreement with their feeder that these outcomes are not only acceptable, but desired. Since it's mutually agreed upon, there's really no immorality involved. 

The only time I think it would be considered immoral is if someone fattens an unsuspecting, unwilling partner - or if a feeder encourages their partner to get fat and the feedee is unaware of the potential risks and health ramifications, or if the feeder tries to convince them there's nothing to worry about from a health standpoint if they gain a significant amount of weight, etc.. But since most everyone on this planet is aware of the issues prior to gaining, I don't think this ever happens.

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I can only speak about myself but for me feedism is nowhere near to sadism. I like to see a woman gaining weight because I asociate fatness with beauty and eating with pleasure. I would never enjoy the fattening is the feedee is not enjoying it herself. In fact, what turns me on the most is the desire of gaining weight and the hedonism of guttony and laziness. I know this fetish is unhealthy but that is ( obviously) a drawback

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On ‎9‎/‎15‎/‎2018 at 7:15 AM, John Smith said:

Who the hell in this website does considers that a woman who increases her body weight is destroying her appeal?

'losing their conventional appeal'

And by that it means what the large majority believe is attractive.

Our small demographic - perhaps 1% of men (who knows) - think its an improvement.

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complicated is the word of course, i think as long as it is temporary, role play, and both persons involved are ok with it there is no problem with whatever you like to do i mean it is your bedroom and your relationship and only yours. so for me moral labels don't really apply as long as those conditions are met. if not, then i am sure there will be problems in the future. 

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Like the others said; we come at this from different angles.

Me, I really enjoy it that in theory my wife wants to be thin, but her whole lifestyle is leading her to be fat(ter). I like it that she doesn't have that control, that self-discipline, and just crazes on chips, ice cream, and what not.

That her lifestyle has the consequence that she gets fatter, and that this is very hard to reverse, maybe falls more under body modification?

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I have mixed feelings. I'm not into the whole shaming thing and I would never encourage my fiance to stuff her face. She has gained weight and lost her fit body because she has a huge appetite that has only increased as she has gained weight. I find my fiance to be fine as hell because the weight has gone to all the right places. But like someone said earlier, i'm not into the whole "the fatter the better." I wouldn't find my fiance attractive at 250+ pounds and not being able to move that much. To me, I have loved watching her body expand and wondering what part of her body is going to grow more next? Her ass, boobs, or belly? But my enjoyment has a limit. I haven't reached it yet, but the more she grows, the more I think she's going to get to that weight I don't find attractive. But more importantly, the more she gains, the more unhealthy she gets. And I definitely don't want her to be unhealthy. I want to live a long life with her. 

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18 hours ago, allgrownup said:

Like the others said; we come at this from different angles.

Me, I really enjoy it that in theory my wife wants to be thin, but her whole lifestyle is leading her to be fat(ter). I like it that she doesn't have that control, that self-discipline, and just crazes on chips, ice cream, and what not.

That her lifestyle has the consequence that she gets fatter, and that this is very hard to reverse, maybe falls more under body modification?

I'm not a technically a feeder, but I have teased my girlfriend with food torturing her with her very favorite fattening stuff, and I realized that even though she's not a feedee she finds it literally impossible to sop eating when I put it in front of her mouth, even if I tease her and call her weak, etc. She would make an excellent feedee.

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On 9/14/2018 at 6:15 PM, John Smith said:

Who the hell in this website does considers that a woman who increases her body weight is destroying her appeal?

It is complicated.

One very well-known web model not only gets off on overeating and having gained an enormous amount of weight in the last 7 years, but gets off on going to clubs where she was once surrounded by hot guys and seeing men look at her now, look her up and down, and look away, as in "Not hot anymore."  Just makes her wet, plain and simple. 

Me, I'm with you, weight gain enhances sex appeal. But there are those who get off on humiliation - men and women - any size, any age. It's a thing...not just relegated to the fat community. 

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4 hours ago, WhoDat said:

It is complicated.

One very well-known web model not only gets off on overeating and having gained an enormous amount of weight in the last 7 years, but gets off on going to clubs where she was once surrounded by hot guys and seeing men look at her now, look her up and down, and look away, as in "Not hot anymore."  Just makes her wet, plain and simple. 

Me, I'm with you, weight gain enhances sex appeal. But there are those who get off on humiliation - men and women - any size, any age. It's a thing...not just relegated to the fat community. 

Fat stigmatization is a prejudical havoc within society that we still have any difficulty to get rid off, alas.

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Interesting subject I guess. For me, nothing is hotter than the embarrassment of a girl who gained some - blushing, trying to hide the belly, adjusting clothes all the time, talking about getting fat in a guilty voice or overplaying it with laughing it away etc. Seems that there is a bit of a taboo in weight gain or it´s considered as something shameful. This slightly dark aspect is always a turn on for me. Therefore I prefer accidental "real" gains much over the planned thing. A bit of teasing, even playful humiliation (on agreement) is fine for me. But I know that people can be deeply sad about their bodys and I wish they wouldn´t. Same goes for bullying thin or chubby people which is never okay.

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On 10/8/2018 at 10:18 AM, WhoDat said:

It is complicated.

One very well-known web model not only gets off on overeating and having gained an enormous amount of weight in the last 7 years, but gets off on going to clubs where she was once surrounded by hot guys and seeing men look at her now, look her up and down, and look away, as in "Not hot anymore."  Just makes her wet, plain and simple. 

Me, I'm with you, weight gain enhances sex appeal. But there are those who get off on humiliation - men and women - any size, any age. It's a thing...not just relegated to the fat community. 

That’s really far out...  who is this?  Is this something she actually does or just fantasizes about?  Does she have other masochistic stuff like that?

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On 9/13/2018 at 9:17 AM, cupido said:

Would you folks class it as a form of sadism for the feeder? (and potentially masochistic by nature for the feeder)

No. Maybe bore BDSM/control style.

If I want my wife's breasts to be as large as possible, even though that objectifies her and will result in all kind of comments, we wouldn't be having this discussion. Now I want her blly to be as large as possible and suddenly we're in sadism :)

I like how she looks, like how she feels, and I like it that it's a non-traditional semi-permanent body modification. 

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Guest riley7897

Did any of you guys have issues with health and exercise growing up ? My Dad has always been a health nut and he forced a constant, venomous fear of fat down our throats on a daily basis for as long as I can remember. He can’t fully overcome that compulsion even to this day (I’m now 21). It gave me horrible anxiety about gaining weight and it contributed a lot to the fragile mental state I’m in now, especially given that I’m autistic. In fact, this affected me to the point that I didn’t really understand what physical attraction was until I was around thirteen: since elementary school I had been looking at big girls’ bodies all day, while claiming to have “crushes” on girls who appealed to me only from the neck up. I was so confused and didn’t understand how other people experienced attraction. I had super weird, often sadistic thoughts about my heavier classmates at night. I wondered if I were gay or something. But in 8th grade, I I started to secretly rewind stuff on TV in my room that portrayed fat girls or weight gain....over and over. Gave me an odd, good feeling. Still didn’t understand it though. Eventually, without really knowing that masturbation was a thing, I started doing it- i think it was sparked by an episode on George Lopez where he told his wife she was already starting to show pregnancy weight.

From then on, I’ve never had any romantic thoughts about a thin girls again. Big women are the only women I would ever date or marry (no luck yet though). I have never once gotten off to anything but a big girl (usually gotta be under 300 lb to look “beautiful” to me though) or weight-related sadism. I have deviated from that maybe 5 or 6 times ever, but only to hate-watch porn of a big girl who lost weight, and think about how vulnerable, dominated, betrayed, and angry it makes me feel that she crushed my sexual attraction to her. I am left high and dry (literally). It’s pure masochism. I almost never do that because it feels unhealthy, unpleasant, and makes me anxious that any big girl I like will get thin. 

I tend to be drawn to bad girls, so my therapists have said that maybe my attraction is a form of rebellion against my dad. I like girls who break the societal (and in my case, familial) rules by being fat. Big girls are like sexy rebels to me, on some freaky, subconscious level. 

What do you guys think ? Sadism is rebellion against authority ? Or both ? Or just genetics ?

 

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On ‎10‎/‎9‎/‎2018 at 12:18 AM, WhoDat said:

It is complicated.

One very well-known web model not only gets off on overeating and having gained an enormous amount of weight in the last 7 years, but gets off on going to clubs where she was once surrounded by hot guys and seeing men look at her now, look her up and down, and look away, as in "Not hot anymore."  Just makes her wet, plain and simple. 

Me, I'm with you, weight gain enhances sex appeal. But there are those who get off on humiliation - men and women - any size, any age. It's a thing...not just relegated to the fat community. 

Who is this?

It sounds hot

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